White River Township Fire Department

                                                Bi-Weekly Strategic Meeting

           

                                                Thursday, July 12, 2007

 

 

                       

Present:

Chief Cassin

Chief Brown

 

 

 

Chief Thacker

Chief Slauter

Crystal Young

 

  

  1. Meeting called to order at 0800.
  2. Old Business
    1. None
  3. New Business
    1. Tanker Home Station – Chief Slauter

                                                              i.      The department has decided to move the Tanker to Station 52 but Chief Wilson has written a memo suggesting the Tanker stay at Station 53.

                                                            ii.      Station 53 will then have the Tanker, TSU and the Decon Trailer.

1.      By having all three of these vehicles at one location, 5 people minimum staff located at Station 53 will not be enough.

2.      The department could send two on the Tanker and leave three back but when the Tanker goes to Perry the crew usually works and if the Tanker goes to Morgan County it needs a crew to look after each other.

3.      The idea looks good on paper but the Station would need a minimum of six people.

4.      Perry is currently re-doing zones and WR gets disregarded most of the time.

a.      69% of the runs over the last five years have been to Perry to which Chief Slauter stated that most get disregarded (not sure of the number on that)

                                                          iii.      Chief Cassin suggests leaving the plan in place for now.  He stated that the memo looks good and brings up several points.

1.      Chief Slauter stated that he discussed each point with Chief Wilson and with each valid point there was an equally valid counter point and they both agreed to go with the new plan at this time.

                                                           iv.       Chief Slauter’s main issue with moving the Tanker is how to get all three out if not enough people located at the station.

1.      Five people are needed for the Decon Trailer without the Tanker.

                                                             v.      Chief Thacker states that the department needs to set up for WR runs and not worry about Perry or Morgan County.

1.      The largest trailer park is now in 52’s district.

2.      There are good reasons stated in the memo but we need to set up for our district.

3.      He also believes that when we send mutual aid it is best to have at least four guys.

                                                           vi.      The decision is to leave the Tanker for now and see how it is going to work.  If things are not working then we can make a change later.

    1. Stortz fittings – Chief Brown

                                                              i.      Chief Brown stated that everyone is changing their sprinkler heading to Stortz.

1.      Some property owners do not want to change but the expense is negligible and they are easier to use

2.      Male 2 ˝ Stortz into the wall before putting the Stortz fitting on.

                                                            ii.      Approximately 13 buildings need to be retrofitted.

                                                          iii.      Chief Brown asked if it affects the SOG and Chief Slauter stated that it does not because it is not specific.

                                                           iv.      The question is if we take our funds and change would we have to maintain them or would that fall on the property owner.

1.      From the point of replacement it would fall on the property to take over.

2.      The district would be able to pressure most into changing but there are always a few that would not cooperate.

                                                             v.      The other issue is the Steamer fittings on hydrants.

1.      Chief Thacker stated that he saw the Stortz connection on hydrants in Lawerence and Fishers and asked if it is cheaper to use that.

2.      Maybe we could get some switched over now and it would be easier.

                                                           vi.      Chief Cassin asked if everyone is suing Stortz why have the standard thread.

                                                         vii.      Chief Brown stated that as far as new developments the district could require them to install them.

1.      Chief Brown asked how much problem it would be to put the connection on.

                                                       viii.      Chief Slauter stated that if it is our money the department would be cheaper to just buy the fitting than to retrofit all of the hydrants.

1.      There are 1280 hydrants with Bargersville.

2.      The water company does not have a problem with the new hydrants with Stortz connection.

                                                           ix.      At this point Chief Cassin believes the time saved by the new hydrant would be lost on spinning the adaptor off so unless all the hydrants are the same it would not make a difference.

                                                             x.      Chief Brown suggests that sometime down the road someone should write a grant to get the money to retro fit all the hydrants.

                                                           xi.      At this time the district is going to stick with putting them on the sprinklers and push the property owners to change their connections

1.      5” to 2 ˝” will have to be careful.

2.      SOG stays the same.

                                                         xii.      Chief Slauter asked if the connection is big enough for 5” connection.  Chief Brown says that is fine, it changes to PVC once it leaves the riser.

1.      The majority of the commercial are 6” or 4”.  Exceptions are the schools with a stage connection and that is not worth the effort.

                                                       xiii.      The decision is to leave the hydrants alone for now and take care of the sprinklers.

    1. Other New Business

                                                              i.      Chief Thacker

1.      The written test for FT is this weekend.  There are 57 eligible as long as they have their CPAT

a.      Interviews are set for Sept. 12, 13 & 14 for career.

b.      1st of Oct. the list should be ready.

2.      PT process

a.      Written and physical test next Fri. and Sat.

b.      Interviews will be set for the week after (Sept. 4th)

c.      The list should be ready for the last week of Sept.

d.      There has not been any outstanding applicants as of yet.

3.      Meeting with Frizzell on Tuesday at 1:00 to discuss funding issues.

a.      One issue is the department cannot keep PT, keeping staffing levels constant is difficult.

b.      The issue is not equipment or facilities but staff and future growth.

c.      Perry was the only ones able to get emergency loans.

                                                                                                                                      i.      Shouldn’t get loans for personnel

d.      Frizzell is currently getting pounded because of property tax.

e.      Possibility of doing away with townships. (92 counties = 500 cities and towns)

f.        Chief Thacker stated that everyone needs to discuss and have a plan for when he comes.

                                                            ii.      Chief Slauter

1.      Stated that next Thursday everyone needs to work on an agenda for mini-retreat

2.      Also need to have 5 – 8 major goals for the department on paper

a.      Example:  Ambulance, Personnel

b.      Needs to be put on paper with timelines

3.      Everyone will have the January Retreat notes e-mailed to them for review.

4.      After lunch everyone needs to get the agenda put together and done by Friday so everyone has first of week to prepare.

                                                          iii.      NIMS 300

1.      26, 27, & 28 here

                                                           iv.      NIMS 400

1.      18 & 19

  1. Meeting called at 0900.