White River Township Fire
Protection District Board Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, December 7, 2004
Meeting called to order by Butch
Sutton at 7 P.M.
Present:
District Board Members
present:
Paul Kite
Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger
Butch Sutton
Brian Bosma
Jon Raker
Jim Dodson
District Employees Present:
Chief Jeff Wilson
Chief Mike Tibbetts
Chief Carey Slauter
Chief Joel Thacker
Chief Scott Cassin
Chief Jim Engmark
Captain Joe Settles
Lt. Eric Funkhouser
Lt. Jeff Smith
Jackie Emmons
Tony Slusher
Josh Justice
Tim Smith
Union President Present:
Lt Mark Hart
Fire Department Members
Present:
Darryl Slevin
Scott Alexander
Eric Doyle
Jason Smith
Mike Hoffman
Others Present:
Dudley Senefeld
Scott Senefeld
Steve Dyson
- Defer discussing the minutes from the November
4, 2004 meeting to the January 2005 meeting.
- Chief Cassin presented the balance sheet. We
have 1.3 million in the bank.
January through November shows where we are in each category.
- Building maintenance and vehicle maintenance are
under funded. The Volunteer and Corporation
funding is way over.
- We are 19 thousand over for workmen’s compensation.
- Steve Dyson passed out the budget report we are
shifting money from capital outlays to the Other Services and Charges
category and it needs to be approved.
Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger made the motion and Jon Raker second the
resolution.
- The last 2 pages of the pack shows the last 2
years of budget and the numbers were adjusted for 2005. There were no more questions on the
finances.
- Regarding the Reserve Division Brian Bosma
emailed to all of the board members.
- Chief Scott Cassin and Chief Mike Tibbetts are proposing
to create an unincorporated division to fight fires as volunteers.
- We can draft the articles but do not have to
file them and they can be signed by any charter member.
- The statute for the volunteers is they have to
belong to the volunteer fire department, but nothing requires that it be incorporated.
- It will be incorporated and we will invite
people to participate in the reserve division, we do not have to file it
anyplace.
- The firefighters will be employed directly by
the district, each member will receive a certificate of membership that
says the agreement to provide the services and they have to sign a
release. This is done so they do
not make a claim for retirement or we can let them go if necessary if they
are volunteers.
- The Association will not have to file taxes,
have an annual meeting, or have a board, because it is an association and
is very flexible.
- The person is only a member if Chief Mike
Tibbetts approves the membership.
- We have to let all races and sexes in the
membership, which is common sense.
- The employees will have no rights, so they
can’t argue at a hearing etc. We
are not required to give them rights however we
can if we want to.
- Brian Bosma anticipates we will do this before
the year 2005 or shortly after 2005.
- We will start giving certificates of membership
and dissolve the existing corporation.
- Mike Hoffman needs help to dissolve the
existing corporation.
- Brian Bosma said Trish Leminger could file the
paperwork and it will be simple, but there has to be a meeting.
- Mike Hoffman said the audits are all up to
date.
- Butch Sutton said financially the only issue is
the phone bills and such that were on top of the contract.
- The asset is one bank account with payroll
money only in it.
- Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger asked is the money
accounted for in the budget, there are no issues with taking this on it
can be authorized by Chief Scott Cassin to move it to contract and get it
out of the way.
- We need to leave the money under reimbursable
expenses.
- Scott Alexander said he has been asked a lot of
questions about what he put together which was a proposed transition plan
to the new division
i.
pay issues
ii.
discipline
policy
iii.
outstanding
concerns – Brian Bosma said should be cleared up tonight
iv.
job descriptions
v.
evaluations
vi.
education
dollars
vii.
clothing
allowance
- Chief Mike Tibbetts, Chief Scott Cassin, and Lt.
Mark Hart will get together to have a meeting and then the board can make
a final decision.
- Brian Bosma suggested we keep expenses to a
minimum until the end of the year.
- Jon Raker asks are there details in the
agreement that will be addressed at that meeting.
- Scott Alexander said these things will be
addressed in the policy manual and it will state what is or is not there
- If the January meeting of the board is within
the 1st pay period, we need to sign up all of the 14 people
within 3 days.
- Yes they do need to fill out new w 4’s.
- Butch Sutton and Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger need
to attend the meeting or Jim Dodson and Paul Kite or even Jon Raker.
- Scott Alexander signed the agreement for article
of association
- Butch Sutton made a motion Jon Raker second the
motion to approve the association
- Butch Sutton requested that the board approve
the budget overage on the fire contract line item. This line item was over budget due to
the increased expenses incurred during the full-time hiring process. Additionally, the line item titled
“Reimbursable Expenses” includes items paid by the district on behalf of
the corporation. This amount should
be approved also. The motion was
approved by Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger and second by Paul Kite.
- Regarding the station 52 room addition, Chief
Scott Cassin asked Scott Senefeld to attend the meeting tonight to catch us
up on the status of this project.
- Scott Senefeld said the budget on the project
is close and they have reworked the square footage since the last meeting.
- They set a tentative schedule in place and want
to make sure that we as a board have all our questions answered.
- Chief Scott Cassin said we are ready to get the
project started.
- Scott Senefeld said we will bid in the spring
quarter and want to get it done before April 1, 2005.
- Scott Senefeld said the building committee will
be the construction manager and one person in that group will be the
chairman. Brian Bosma strongly
urges that it must be a professional person to be the construction
manager and should be separate from the design team (building committee).
- Scott Senefeld said their design firm spends as
much time in the field as it does on designs.
- If we use a general contractor it makes the
cost more, but then we do not have to worry about scheduling as we would with
separate contractors.
- Dudley Senefeld said we can bid it out both
ways.
- We will have another meeting to deal with the
projects if needed.
- The board approved putting the bid package
together,
- Regarding Heron Ridge, Scott Senefeld has a
meeting with Trish Leminger December 8, 2004. They meet with the homeowners
association board to determine their response to the antenna placement on
the site.
- The safety board document changes need to be
made and it needs to include part time, job descriptions, promotion
criteria. Brian Bosma has a concern we have
extraneous non approved disciplinary matters. The benefits package and
disciplinary package needs to be standard.
We need to make one standard and say it supersedes all others, the
only policy we have is on the website on the secured employee part of the
website. The one Butch Sutton read
was printed off of the website and the link has been disconnected per Trish
Leminger a couple of months ago per Chief Scott Cassin.
- What kind of priority was put on doing
evaluations, Butch Sutton wants a report on that by the next meeting.
- Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger asks when the policies
are renewed; we need to date the policy and keep that current and the two
documents need to match. It got
brought over from 1995 and the safety document has appeared since then.
- Merit ranks for captains – Captain Joe Settles
and Captain Casey Arkins need to make their permanent rank as of Dec 1
2004. The motion was made 1st
by Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger and then second by Jon Raker.
- The training chief vehicle. Jim Dodson said Joel Thacker is a safety
officer on calls and has to respond and he needs a vehicle. Jim Dodson 1st the motion and
Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger 2nd the motion to proceed with the
purchase of an additional vehicle.
This will put the total number of staff vehicles at 9 including the
two pool cars. This purchase will
put the department’s small vehicle rotation schedule back on track. We will be selling the two 1999 Tahoes as part of this year’s cycling.
- The grass rig project total amount is $54,134.09
with all the equipment. It will be
a Ford which is cheaper than the Chevy and we approved it before. We need it for, among other uses, the
railroad tracks because the brake boxes get hot and ignite the grasses and
this is necessary. We had three
quotes within seven days. The
motion was then approved for the grass rig 1st by Dr. Chuck
Shufflebarger and 2nd by Paul Kite.
- The 2005 meeting schedule is the 1st
Tuesday of each month, except for January 6, 2005. August and October 2005 will be
discussed later in the year 2005.
- The outstanding issue is a contract for sick
leave, etc from a part time employee.
Butch Sutton suggests the board deny this request since we are
putting together a package now.
This was approved by motion Paul Kite 1st Jim Dodson 2nd.
- Station 51, Heron Ridge the current status is the
escrow closing. Platt was approved
in the boards name so on paper the board owns the property. Now we have 120 days to get all the
approvals based upon the contract.
What are all the approvals?
- The home owners association has to approve the
aerial antenna and Butch Sutton is upset with the communications. The meeting is set for December 8, 2004
and Butch Sutton said if it becomes too much of an issue we will have to
walk and unwrap this thing.
- What can we get out of the property? It is worth a good value and we can get
our money back if needed. The
meeting is at 3 pm at the White River
library with the home owners association.
- If we can not get approval of the antenna we
have to back out and they will not discuss the antenna, they are
discussing landscaping and everything else to avoid discussing the
antenna.
- Chief Scott Cassin said we have to have the antenna
computer wise and it will be higher than 100 feet.
- We may go to the homeowner’s association annual
meeting and appeal to the entire association.
- Dr. Chuck Shufflebarger said lets not threaten
unless we are all in agreement to walk.
- We have to let Trish Leminger know where we
stand on this before she meets with the association.
- Butch has another issue with this thing the loan
provision we are already over on cost with the estimates for a controlled
project and we need to pare down.
We are over 2 million.
- Butch Sutton just got that tonight. Brian Bosma said Trish Leminger
completed that on Thanksgiving morning before she went on vacation.
- Chief Cassin stated that the building is being
built based on the needs of the department, both now and into the
future. The building is being
designed around a total capacity of 12 personnel on-duty at once.
- Chief Cassin also stated that projects of this
magnitude are in the 2 to 2.5 Million dollar range as evidence by a
national study as well as similar sized local projects in the works now
(Perry Twp and Bargersville). We
have to be prepared to expect the same.
- Chief Mike Tibbetts went to the I69 project
again and they have triangles for the interchange to go through our
station here at Smith
Valley and that
would take us out, part of the school and the speedway.
Meeting adjourned at 8:45
pm.